Cressida Dick, Tukwini Mandela, Sheila Ferguson

Woman's Hour

BBC

Society & Culture, Health & Fitness, Personal Journals

4.2 • 2.9K Ratings

🗓️ 11 February 2022

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

Dame Cressida Dick, the first woman to lead the Metropolitan Police has resigned. We've covered every twist and turn of the many high profile crimes against women and girls involving the Met Police over the last two years. We get reaction from Kristina O'Connor, the daughter of Des O'Connor, who has her own experience of inappropriate Met Police behaviour. Also, Jamie Klingler from Reclaim These Streets, Zoe Billingham who's the former Her Majesty's Inspector of Constabulary and Harriet Wistrich, Director of the Centre for Women's Justice. We hear from Tukwini Mandela, one of Nelson Mandela's oldest grandchildren. Thirty two years to the day, Nelson Mandala was released from Robben Island. Tukwini is here to explore how much the UK population really knows about black history. We speak to Marie Penman who left her job with the charity-side of Raith Rovers football club because it signed David Goodwillie. He was the player who a Scottish civil court found to have raped a woman. Sheila Ferguson. who used to be one of the Three Degrees. is now in a new production of Chicago which is on tour. Sheila joins Anita to talk about new love, dating and hanging out with musical legends when she first started out.

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0:00.0	BBC Sounds Music Radio Podcasts
0:04.4	Hello, I'm Anita Rani and welcome to Woman's Hour from BBC Radio 4.
0:10.0	Good morning, welcome to Friday's Woman's Hour.
0:12.2	Today I'll be speaking to Marie Penman, who made a decision to quit her job when her
0:17.8	employers, football team Ray Throvers, signed David Goodwillie to play for the team even
0:22.8	though he was found to have raped a woman in a Scottish civil case in 2017.
0:28.1	She took a stand for something she believed in, a bold move that cost her her job.
0:34.6	So this morning I once been inspired by your stories of taking a stand.
0:39.1	We want to hear from you.
0:40.6	When you've mentally weighed up the cost to yourself and spoken out because it matters
0:45.1	to you, it's a matter of your integrity because you know if you don't say anything, nothing
0:49.8	will change, whether it's in the workplace, finally finding the courage to speak to your
0:54.2	manager about the way you've been treated or standing up for someone else or finally telling
0:59.1	someone they've been mispronouncing your name for months.
1:02.6	So many of us let things slide because we weigh up the options and often we think and we
1:07.3	have thought it's just easier to say nothing, which is why people get away with casual
1:11.5	sexism and racism.
1:13.7	But we're seeing the conversation change and more and more people are speaking out publicly
1:18.8	and I'd like to know how this is affecting you, how it boosted you to do the same.
1:24.7	Or maybe you've made a big decision about your own life and how you choose to live it.
1:29.0	Have you become a vegetarian or quite alcohol or finally split up from your partner or let's
1:33.8	end with a positive.
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