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But frankly, I think the insurance is secondary to what's happening with interest rates, right?

So when we talk about market dynamics and people getting pushed out of markets in terms

of buyers, I think the interest rates are a much bigger driving force than the insurance.

And we are seeing that, right?

So like I'm doing a deal right now in Dallas, 200 units, Class A building in downtown Dallas.

And we're buying it for slightly less than the seller bought it for in 2019.

What's going on, everybody?

This is Josh Ferrari, host of the Creative Capital Podcast here with the very special

guest today.

I'm sure it's probably what brought you to want to play this episode in the first place.

And that is Mr. Chad Zidaneck, rocket scientist turned multi-family millionaire and

self-storage millionaire, just super successful entrepreneur from a variety of different aspects.

Used to literally be a rocket scientist, so we talked a little bit about that.

How can you not?

Seems like a pretty sweet industry tells us a lot about some of the cool things he got

to do.

He even used to be a, even used to have his own TV show specific to kind of teaching people

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