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Welcome to Grow Cook Eat Arrangerange with me Sarah Raven and Arthur Parkinson

and today we have a friend and sort of gardening colleague Sarah Mead who I met through

organic gardening maybe 10 or 15 years ago.

And she is yo organic.

So she is the wife of the husband and wife team, Tim and Sarah,

who set up and have that incredible organic dairy business.

But why have we got her on a gardening show?

Because Sarah runs the garden and she does the whole sort of estate and particularly garden and ornamental garden.

Welcome Sarah to the podcast.

Thank you.

It's so lovely to have you here. So I guess we need to start at the beginning really. So why did you and Tim so early on get into the whole organic story way, way,

way before everybody, you know, was thinking that buying organic was the right thing to do.

Yeah, that's a really good question.

And actually, in a funny kind of way, you know, the whole organic thing is relatively speaking,

quite a recent, has come to prominence quite recently, but we've been at it for 26 years

down here in deepest, darkest summer as that.

And really, the reason being that we just, we began to appreciate the real difference between

doing things organically and not doing things organically.

And also, to be brutally honest, we spotted a gap in the market.

There you go.

So, you know, all these things, whether they're sustainable and green or not, have got to

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