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Jared back here with you on the Dad Tired podcast.

Super excited, as always to be back here with you.

Today I'm doing an interview with the President of Family Life David Robbins.

We I don't remember exactly how I got connected with David I think oh we had a mutual friend here in Portland that

introduced us via email. We've actually never had a chance to meet in person but

we've talked quite a bit over the phone and he's just become a friend and even kind of a mentor the guy is just

full of wisdom and so I kind of keep him in my back pocket for occasions where I feel like I

just need somebody to speak wisdom. I know that he's

there for that purpose is just along with just being a good friend. So I this guy is

going to drop a ton of nuggets like as I was going back through and editing

this podcast episode I was just listening to it again and like every other sentence he just drops like a one-liner that is so good like we could

spend a whole podcast episode just talking about that particular like one line that he threw out.

So he's going to share bits and pieces of his story,

but he's also going to talk about what does it look like

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