I'm Kate Winkler-Dawson. I'm a journalist who's spent the last 25 years writing about True

Crime.

And I'm Paul Holes, a retired cold case investigator who's worked some of America's most complicated

cases and solve them.

Each week, I present Paul with one of history's most compelling True Crimes.

And I weigh in using modern forensic techniques to bring new insights to old mysteries.

Together, using our individual expertise, we're examining historical True Crime cases

through a 21st century lens.

Some are solved and some are cold. Very cold.

This is Bairied Bones.

Hey, how are you?

Hey, Kate, I'm doing great. How's it going?

It's going well. Feels like it's been forever, but it really hasn't.

No, you know, but I've got my drink here. And even though it's in a bourbon glass, do

you have any idea what this drink might be?

It looks like some sort of protein, something or other.

It's Kava.

This is your calming, right?

You know, I have found that when I drink Kava, I don't have the craving to drink the hard

bourbon.

So it's a way to help control the amount of alcohol intake I've started.

Well, I know one of the things that you like to do is exercise, which I love that about

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