Covid: The Evidence Against Natural Origin (Robert Wright & Yuri Deigin)
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🗓️ 10 December 2024
⏱️ 62 minutes
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0:00 Yuri’s high-stakes debate on Covid’s origins 3:42 Pros and cons of Covid vaccines 10:04 Do Covid “coincidences” point to a lab leak? 21:55 Does the pattern of Covid’s initial spread suggest zoonotic origin? 27:51 Why the Wuhan market may have amplified Covid’s spread 38:59 Covid’s lineages A and B 53:29 US-China collaboration in the Wuhan lab’s virology research
Robert Wright (Nonzero, The Evolution of God, Why Buddhism Is True) and Yuri Deigin (YouthBio Therapeutics). Recorded December 03, 2024.
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to Robert Wright's Non-Zero podcast. You're listening to Robert Wright's Non-Zero Podcast. |
| 0:28.0 | Hi, Yuri. |
| 0:32.1 | Hi, Bob. |
| 0:33.3 | How you doing? |
| 0:34.7 | Good, thanks. |
| 0:35.8 | How are you? |
| 0:36.9 | I cannot complain. |
| 0:38.4 | Let me introduce this. |
| 0:39.2 | I'm Robert Wright, publisher of Non-Zero Newsletter. |
| 0:41.1 | This is the Non-Zero podcast. |
| 0:42.8 | You are Uri Dagan, and you are, for one thing, co-founder and CEO of Youth Biotherapeutics, |
| 0:49.8 | which is working on longevity products, I guess, and doing longevity research. |
| 0:56.2 | I'm definitely rooting for you there. |
| 0:58.2 | In fact, more and more as each year passes, I wish you the speediest success. |
| 1:05.0 | Now, what we're going to talk about is something where I'm not particularly rooting for you |
| 1:10.0 | just because we're going to talk about the lab leak hypothesis, and I'm a lab leak agnostic. |
| 1:14.6 | I'm not really rooting for either side. |
| 1:17.3 | This conversation is kind of a sequel to a podcast I did a few months ago with Peter Miller, who was on the other side of a kind of famous debate that you participated in. |
| 1:29.2 | You and your teammate, Sar, Wilf, went up against your kind of, well, your reaction. |
| 1:37.2 | When I said, teammate, you were kind of like, well, you were on the same team. |
| 1:41.2 | You're on the, at a minimum, you were on the same. He's probably the leader of the team, and I'm the teammate that he asked to play one quarter, or I guess a third of the debate. A third. There were three. It was more like hockey. No, it's soccer. Legionier, yeah, invited. No, no, hockey has three periods. You're in Canada. You tell me. That's right, I guess, yeah, three periods. And yeah, invited. No, no, hockey has three periods. You're in Canada, you tell me. |
| 2:01.8 | No, that's right. |
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