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More or Less: Behind the Stats

Covid climb, childcare costs and why can’t the French count properly?

More or Less: Behind the Stats

BBC

Business, Mathematics, Science, News Commentary, News

4.63.5K Ratings

🗓️ 29 June 2022

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

Covid cases are rising once again – how accurately are official figures picking up the new wave and how worried we should be? We discuss inflationary spirals and how much wage and pension increases contribute to inflation. Also how many parents actually struggle with childcare costs? Can long waits at A&E be put down to the pandemic and why the French count differently to the British.

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:04.4

Hello and welcome to the last in this series of more or less. This week our wage increases

0:11.7

inflationary. What about pension increases? Stephanie Flanders helps explain the wage price

0:18.1

spiral. Child care seems pretty expensive but many parents say they're not struggling

0:24.6

to pay for it. What's going on there? The wily French are back on the show with their

0:29.7

mysterious ways of counting. I will do my best to figure it out. But first, just when

0:35.8

we thought we'd get through a series of more or less without a new Covid wave, a pair

0:40.7

of surly Omicron variants show up. How worried should we be? And is more or less to blame?

0:48.0

Correlation isn't causation of course but every time there's a series there's a Covid

0:52.0

wave. It's getting a little suspect. As in all times of crisis I climbed to the search

0:58.2

light on the roof of Broadcasting House and sent out the stat signal. Within minutes,

1:03.9

Professor Sir David Speagle-Holter was on the scene. I began by asking him, was there

1:09.1

really a new wave of Covid and if so, was it our fault?

1:14.5

Probably not your fault but there is a wave. There's definitely an increase in infections

1:20.5

since mid-May they've been going up. But I don't think it's going to be a wave like

1:25.4

previous big spikes that we've seen before. It's likely to be much more shallow. We don't

1:31.2

know when it's going to top off but I think maybe swell is a better way to describe it.

1:36.3

I haven't done a Covid test for quite a while. I used to be doing them all the time. My

1:41.0

children used to do them twice a week now they're not doing them. A lot of our listeners

1:44.9

have got in touch and said now that testing is far less frequent. Can we trust the figures

1:52.2

on the dashboard to help us chart the epidemic?

1:56.5

Well, they may be useful for identifying trends but they cannot tell us how much virus

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