Okay, we are live. Hi, this is William Ramsey. Welcome to William Ramsey. It's on today's show of a very special guest. His name is Raven Kiefer, last name, K-E-F-E-F-E-R, and I listened to him on Forbidden Knowledge News and super knowledgeable about the entire COVID fiasco. So I asked him on, so I'm delighted to have him on. Found out in the pre-show, he's friends's friends with a friend of mine New York Patriot so he's listened to some of my stuff I've listened to his but he has a I think a very

knowledgeable take on what happened in this whole kind of madness that took place and all the

injuries and deaths and so I'm glad to just have them on and share

his knowledge. So Raven, welcome to the show. Thank you. Thank you. It's a pleasure to be here.

So for people who haven't heard your name or may not have heard you on other interviews on

forbidden knowledge news, for example, can you kind of talk about your background and how you got interested in this whole COVID situation?

Well, for a lot of people who don't know me,

and a lot of your audience won't,

I started out in the 1980s working what they call ABC,

which is atomic, biological, and chemical.

I was originally supposed to be in the military,

but they were doing away with our units.

So I went to work for a private contractor group.

And our job was to chase down pathogens, do quarantines.

Of course, we had the atomic and the biological and the chemical.

So very wide range of things that we had to know and be capable of.

So that's how I got started all those years ago back in the 1980s.

And I have stayed current all this time.

I keep track of who's building labs and why and where and because my experience has taught me not to trust people.

Very wise.

So I've spent years doing this.

And now, specifically with the coronavirus that has come out in 2019,

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