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🗓️ 6 April 2020
⏱️ 28 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | I think it's basically a matter of proportion. |
| 0:02.7 | The biggest story in the country is not President Trump being a jerk to a reporter. |
| 0:06.4 | It's this pandemic. |
| 0:10.3 | As uncertainty has loomed over the spread of the coronavirus pandemic, many Americans have turned to the media instead of government for their answers. |
| 0:18.4 | What role has the fourth estate played in the crisis? Has the media been |
| 0:22.5 | an indispensable source of information, or is it spreading the kinds of falsehoods that get people |
| 0:27.6 | killed? Welcome to the GZero World Podcast. I'm Ian Bremmer, and this is where I share extended |
| 0:34.0 | versions of the interviews from my show on public television. Today I talk to media veteran Ben Smith, who recently left his post as editor-in-chief at BuzzFeed |
| 0:42.8 | to be a media columnist at the New York Times. |
| 0:45.6 | Let's get to it. |
| 1:01.3 | Ben Smith, New York Times. Ben Smith, New York Times. He used to be BuzzFeed. I knew you from both. Very good to be with you, man. |
| 1:09.8 | Thanks. Thanks for having me on from your bunker. So I want to talk to you about the media and this crisis. |
| 1:17.6 | And maybe start with the idea that, you know, in a recent poll I saw from Gallup, the news media was given the worst approval rating of all American institutions grappling with the coronavirus. |
| 1:26.6 | So, you know, as someone whose job it is now to kind of assess and |
| 1:31.7 | understand the media, why do you think that is? Well, I don't, I mean, it's not new, right? |
| 1:38.8 | I think there's, and it's not uniform. Republicans and conservatives now, you know, if you ask them, how is the media? |
| 1:46.0 | They'll give you, like, a 10%, you know, they'll say, they're doing a job, Democrats and liberals much, much higher. |
| 1:54.3 | And I think it's basically that media, in part, because media has been pulled into the sort of partisan stew of American life |
| 2:02.1 | and that there's been both a lot of actual mistakes by the media |
| 2:07.2 | and a real campaign on the right to, and by Donald Trump in particular, to demonize it. |
| 2:13.9 | That said, you know, it's media, with some exceptions, was mostly as behind as politicians on this. |
| 2:23.1 | Like, I'm on this crisis. |
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