Hello and welcome to another episode of I Wei with Jamila Jamil a podcast against shame.

This week's episode is so fucking important, please listen to it all the way through.

I desperately needed to have this conversation not just for me but also publicly with someone

who was so well informed on this subject and we are talking about abortion but from an angle

that rarely gets discussed.

We all talk about abortion and those of us who are pro-choice,

pro- reproductive rights and pro-bodally freedom and autonomy,

you know, we'll talk about the basics of the fact that, you know, we have to have

agency of our own bodies and that abortion is health care and that our lives are and

our safety and our health is a priority in America has such terrible mortality rates and people can become pregnant as a result of trigger warning, I'm sorry, sexual assault, you know, or incest or people are very young or they're not ready or they're not economically set up to be able to or maybe they're not

physically able to you know or emotionally or mentally able to be ready yet for

the huge responsibility it is to have a child.

We talk about all those things, but then suddenly the conversation starts to die down

when it gets to the awkward conversation about late-term abortions.

And I'm talking all the way through to the end of a pregnancy, choosing to end a

pregnancy all the way through the nine months. At that point even the most die-hard

pro-choice people start to pause and I was one of those people and and work like the work of my guest this week was part of what illuminated me to understand that the system is so fucked that advocating for abortion all the way through is very important and I

you know I challenge this subject in the podcast because we need to have this difficult

conversation and it is jarring and it is uncomfortable and it does make people

uncomfortable not everyone some of you are so progressive that you will have already been

on board with this but some of you might not have really thought about this or

when you've had the uncomfortable feeling you might have shied away from it.

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