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Psychology In Seattle Podcast

Counselor Gets Sued

Psychology In Seattle Podcast

Kirk Honda

Mental Health, Health & Fitness

4.61.2K Ratings

🗓️ 28 December 2022

⏱️ 90 minutes

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Summary

Dr Kirk and Bob discuss a counselor getting sued for not having proper documentation and reporting abuse. December 28, 2022

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00:00 Counselor gets sued

01:54 What happened?

19:36 Would Bob be comfortable being recorded without his knowledge?

30:32 What is the rest of the story & outcome?

1:01:58 Would Bob have called CPS?

1:12:35 What's the moral of the story?

1:19:12 Would you refer patients to IOP?


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0:00.0

So Bob, my malpractice insurance sent me a brief that describes a case in which someone was

0:06.7

successfully sued and you know how much vicarious enjoyment I get out of out of this sort of thing

0:13.7

because usually these clinicians, these counselors, these therapists make some pretty obvious mistakes

0:20.8

and as a very staunch rule follower myself, there's something, there's some bit of a sick

0:28.8

enjoyment that I get from reading these therapists who are being sued successfully. So let's read it,

0:34.0

what do you say? Sure. Do you get any kind of pleasure from this? No, usually I get nervous.

0:40.2

Yeah, well I think another enjoyment is for me anyway is that when we study ethics and we

0:47.9

hear stories in our field, it usually makes us paranoid thinking am I going to get sued. But when

0:53.2

you read these stories, the mistakes they make are so obvious that you're like, oh, I'm way far

0:59.9

from these thresholds. Like the things that these people are doing are so far and the other aspect

1:06.4

that is I think comforting is a lot of times these therapists, even after making some pretty bad

1:11.9

mistakes, they're still allowed to practice afterwards. They just have to take some training or

1:16.3

they're on probation, they pay a fee and it's usually, they usually recover as the point. They're

1:22.0

not locked up in some sort of therapy jail. So I find that there's a lot of emotional benefits to

1:29.6

and another thing is you learn how this system actually operates. Instead of having this

1:35.1

amorphous monster that's out there ready to pounce on you every time you make a mistake in your

1:40.5

practice, you can actually see the process and go, oh, it's a very rational level headed process

1:49.9

that isn't out to get us. That's good. So this is from my malpractice insurance. It's a

1:59.6

publication they sent out every now and then. It's HPSO or health care providers service

2:06.1

organizations by malpractice. What's your malpractice? It's through, wait, what is it? Well, there's

2:11.7

American professional agency. That's the one, yeah. So I'm going to read and I've sort of reworded

2:18.8

some of the things to make it more podcast friendly. The insured or the counselor, the insured

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