Could the plot twist in “Conclave” actually happen?

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🗓️ 20 December 2024

⏱️ 44 minutes

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On “Jesuitical” this week, Zac and Ashley chat with Colleen Dulle, an associate editor at America and co-host of the “Inside the Vatican” podcast, about how realistically the new film “Conclave” portrays the process of selecting a new pope. They praise the film’s historical accuracy but raise eyebrows over the complex theological implications around the film’s twist ending. Warning: This episode contains major spoilers. Zac, Ashley and Colleen discuss: - The challenges of translating the complexities of the Catholic Church to a mainstream audience through a cinematic lens - Varying reactions to “Conclave” from Catholics, including Bishop Robert Barron’s critique of the film - The role and representation of women, including nuns, in the Catholic Church as depicted in the film In Signs of the Times, Zac, Ashley and Colleen discuss Pope Francis’ new autobiography Hope, which reveals two assassination attempts on his life during his trip to Iraq in 2021; and a recent liturgical debate sparked by Cardinal Blase Cupich’s guidance to parishioners in the Archdiocese of Chicago that discouraged kneeling to receive Communion. Links for further reading: ‘Conclave’ explainer: Could that twist ending really happen? Your Take: Is ‘Conclave’ worth seeing for Catholics? ‘Conclave’ hits theaters. What really happens when a new pope is elected? Pope Francis reveals he survived two assassination attempts during visit to Iraq Hope: The Autobiography by Pope Francis Should you stand or kneel to receive communion? Cardinal Cupich stirs debate after weighing in What’s on tap? French 75s You can follow us on X and on Instagram @jesuiticalshow. You can find us on Facebook at facebook.com/groups/jesuitical. Please consider supporting Jesuitical by becoming a digital subscriber to America Media at americamagazine.org/subscribe Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:50.6	Hello and welcome to Jesuitical, a podcast from America Media for Saints and Sinners.
0:54.4	You can join us each week for honest conversations about the Catholic Church in our world today, sometimes over drinks. I'm Ashley McInnellis, and I'm joined by Zach Davis.
1:00.0	Oh, sorry, I thought we were circling back after the holidays. It's good to be with you. It's
1:04.7	good to be with you. But my brain is elsewhere. One more up. You got this. Yep, one more
1:08.4	episode. And it's a good one. And it is. And we're going to get a little assist from our friend and colleague, Colleen, welcome back to Jesuitical Colleen. Always good to be here. In case you didn't know this already, Colleen is an associate editor at America and a co-host of the Inside the Vatican podcast. That's right. And Colleen did some reporting on this week's topic, which is the
1:29.2	Conclave film. So we heard from some of our listeners that they wanted us to do a discussion
1:34.0	on the new movie that's out. It just got to Peacock. So if you've got that, you can stream it.
1:39.1	But I think it's still in some theaters, too. Fascinating. Colleen did some fact checking on it. We've all seen it. We're ready to dive in.
1:45.6	And we will say now that there will be spoilers in our conversation with Colleen. So if you have not
1:49.9	seen the movie yet and want to and don't want it to be spoiled, just listen to SOTs and then skip ahead.
1:56.1	Skip. Yeah. And then once you've seen it, come back, listen to our combo. Yep. But Colleen's also going to join us for Signs of the Times, the part of our show where we sift through the Catholic news of the week, so you don't have to.
2:06.4	There's some pretty big Vatican news, which is one of the reasons we wanted to bring Colleen on for the full show.
2:12.9	So we learned this week that Pope Francis survived two assassination attempts during his visit to Iraq in 2021.
2:21.6	This revelation came in a new autobiography by Pope Francis called Sperra, which means hope.
2:27.3	And it was released on Tuesday, which was also his 88th birthday.
2:31.8	Yeah, getting up there.
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