Hey guys, my name is Johnny Ardavanus, and this is dial-in.

In this episode, I sit down with pastor, author, the president of For the Gospel Ministries,

and one of my good friends, Kasti Hin.

In this episode, we're going to discuss the teachings of the Bethel movement,

and then we're going to discuss the dangers of what happens when we get the identity of Christ wrong.

You're not going to want to miss it. Let's dial in.

Gosti, thanks for sitting down again.

I wanted to ask you a question. I think a lot of people talk about,

maybe they'll read snippets or hear

sound bites about the Word of Faith movement Bethel Jesus culture and they're very

polarizing sides but I think most people the vast majority have very little understanding

about what they teach about the gospel about, about Jesus and his ministry, and how

we operate today.

First and foremost, I just want you to provide a fundamental level.

If someone's going, what does Bethel teach?

I've heard maybe it's dangerous or I heard it's fine. What do they teach

biblically? And then afterwards we'll talk about how we line that up with scripture

and what that teaches us today.

Yeah. So first to be fair and to be clear, what they teach would be concerning to me,

here's why and here's the what. Typically, there may be people in there who say,

oh, I don't agree with that or I don't teach that, so and so does, but we don't agree

with everything. But let's just say, as a general movement, they would teach first that

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