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🗓️ 17 April 2022
⏱️ 123 minutes
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This week, Kate interviews millennial magazine icon Atoosa Rubenstein, former editor-in-chief of CosmoGIRL! And Seventeen magazine in the early-mid 2000s, who has now entered back into the pop culture spotlight with her Substack Atoosa Unedited. Kate and Atoosa talk about her rise to being the youngest founder and editor-in-chief in Hearst history, her experience in the glam magazine world in the aughts, celeb encounters, "Devil Wears Prada" moments, the benefits and downfalls of her inexperience in a leadership role, and her ultimate exit from the spotlight as a result of insurmountable burnout. She also speaks very honestly about her experience with sexual assault in her childhood, the importance of magazines in helping her identify it, and the passion she had for instilling confidence and bodily autonomy in young girls, even in an era we now side-eye as not being the most forward-thinking or body confident (understatement). They also talk about Kate's burning questions re: the heavy-hitting topics, e.g. her experience being a judge on America's Next Top Model and if someone made up all the puns in Trauma-Rama. Enjoy! TW: SA
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0:00.0 | I have talked about teen magazines many times on this podcast. |
0:19.6 | A big recurring theme is the reflecting on an analysis of the female millennial zeitgeist |
0:28.5 | and to say that teen magazines were influential would be a gross understatement unlike the |
0:36.0 | egregious overstatement of how at the threat we were at all times for toxic shocks syndrome |
0:41.0 | as communicated by teen magazines. I think that it's a tough thing and I find this with every topic |
0:48.7 | we go over. I want to celebrate things for what they were and what they meant for me at that time |
0:55.0 | within the limitations that existed within that time but also acknowledge the problem of |
1:01.6 | believing that's what I was limited to. When they're in that time the magazines I was reading |
1:08.0 | as a young suburban white young woman in Virginia, the stuff I was reading from memory, |
1:16.5 | it didn't have a ton of diversity, it didn't have a ton of body positive commentary, |
1:25.1 | like it was upholding the standards that we now realize were incredibly problematic |
1:29.8 | to be holding ourselves to of thinness of particular beauty standards. |
1:36.7 | What was represented in these pages is oftentimes pretty troubling when you look back on it |
1:41.9 | but it also was very normal for the time it was in and it becomes difficult to use today's |
1:46.4 | yardstick as a means to gauge the quality of something back then. We can absolutely criticize |
1:50.8 | and it's important to recognize how it framed the way we think we thought about ourselves, |
1:55.4 | the way we thought about others and these are the things I dissect all the time on this podcast |
2:00.4 | but there's also a flip side of that that I really like want to acknowledge and celebrate |
2:05.8 | on behalf of the teen magazine especially in the context of the sex ed episode I did last week |
2:11.9 | where we heard from countless people that had no information about their bodies, their anatomy |
2:17.5 | about sex that they were in abstinence only 90s, 2000s programs that gave them no information |
2:23.6 | about contraception, gave them no information about like helpful information about periods and |
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