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The Gist

Corruption Just Isn't Telegenic

The Gist

Peach Fish Productions

Daily News, News

4.53.7K Ratings

🗓️ 28 March 2018

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

On The Gist, forget Stormy Daniels. The Kushners' massive loan deals are where the real dirt is at. In the interview, the world's growing complexity can be measured in dusty cables, useless features, and lines of code. Chris Clearfield and András Tilcsik talk about the problems that snowball when even the smallest thing goes wrong. Clearfield and Tilcsik are the authors of Meltdown: Why Our Systems Fail and What We Can Do About It. In the Spiel, any census that asks people about their citizenship status will be pricey and inaccurate.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

The following content contains some explicit language that might not be suitable for children or Mormons.

0:12.9

It's Tuesday, March 27, 2018, from Slate It's The Gest.

0:16.6

I'm Mike Pesca.

0:17.9

I was watching TV the other day.

0:19.8

There was this stormy Daniels lady on 22 million of my fellow Americans join me in watching her.

0:26.1

On 60 minutes, remember the days when we used to be moaned the fact, oh my god, the president slept with a porn star.

0:32.5

No one paid attention.

0:33.9

Well now, everyone's paying attention.

0:36.0

Are we that much better off for it?

0:37.7

I mean, Trump is mean and cruel in a moral and dastard land as lawyer Michael Cohen seems like a thuggish

0:43.4

miscreant of the lowest order.

0:45.4

But in terms of risk, actual legal risk, what are we talking about here?

0:50.0

Perhaps there was a federal election law violation.

0:53.6

That will be a fine.

0:55.3

He will pay a penalty.

0:56.6

Perhaps this will annoy him to the point where he goes berserk and hoist himself by his own pittard.

1:03.7

But why is this the scandal that's occupying us?

1:06.6

It's not really going to bring him down unless he decides to implode.

1:09.9

I mean, we're talking about a guy who's violating the emoluments clause every day.

1:14.3

And Jared Kushner, oh my god, Jared Kushner's business got half a billion dollars in loans with firms after he took meetings with those firms.

1:23.6

And the White House and his dad, former federal and made Charles Kushner, met with the Qataris and asked them for a loan.

1:31.3

Also, after the election in a separate meeting, there was a deal for a loan for half a billion dollars from the Qataris.

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