I want to play a little. Bobby Chaconne went on Anganet Leave. I think it was last night.

He speaks about this and it's funny. Cops and people in law enforcement, we speak and think the same

because he said right away, I see it very Spartan. That was the first word I said, Mike, wasn't it?

Yeah. Yeah. That's the word. That's it's it. So here's Bobby Chaconne.

Talk about these new photos that we're seeing inside of Brian Koberger's apartment.

I want to bring in Bobby Chaconne.

He's a retired FBI agent, also an attorney.

Bobby, thanks so much for coming on.

What strikes you first when you look through

these photos of Brian Coburger's apartment? Well, I think how Spartan it was, how little

personality, if you will, whereas, I mean, there was a few maybe kind of birthday cards or greeting

cards, but very few, nothing on the walls, which, you know, on one hand, I know that, you know, I've lived the

undergraduate life in a dorm and he was in graduate student housing, which, you know, is always

a little, you know, lower end.

Usually comes furnished with cheap furniture and not a lot, you know, in way of aesthetics.

But a lot of times you personalize it yourself, you know, even a little house plant or something.

And this was nothing, it was nothing there.

Now, granted, these pictures are taken, you know, he had time to kind of clean out things and get rid of things.

But I was really struck by like just how sparse it was, how, you know, there was nothing personal.

It just seemed to be no person.

You know, we know now about the personality type and stuff, and it just seemed to fit this person who, like, didn't have any friends, did not much any social life.

There was just nothing there. It was just books, which were used in his studies, you know,

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