Cooperation To Confrontation: Why US China Strategy Changed

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🗓️ 1 March 2023

⏱️ 16 minutes

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A new House panel kicked off a series of hearings focused on what lawmakers describe as the threat posed by China's government to the United States. The committee's chair, Republican Mike Gallagher, hopes the committee produces a slew of bipartisan legislation. How did things get to this point?

This episode: political correspondent Susan Davis, White House correspondent Asma Khalid, and congressional correspondent Deirdre Walsh.

This episode was produced by Elena Moore and Casey Morell. It was edited by Eric McDaniel. Our executive producer is Muthoni Muturi. Research and fact-checking by Devin Speak.

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0:00.0	Hi, this is Lily calling from Okers, California. I finally was summoned to my local courthouse for
0:05.5	jury selection only to find out today that because of the duration of the trial, they thought
0:10.3	it would be too much for me to be away from my six grade students. I'm really excited to be back
0:14.8	in class tomorrow. However, I'm a little bit bummed that I don't get an insight peak at our
0:19.1	judicial system. This podcast was recorded at 1.42pm on Wednesday, March 1st. Things may have changed
0:26.0	by the time that you hear this and I'll still be hoping to one day have a chance to sit in a box.
0:33.6	I'm sure you will get called for jury doing it. I've never gotten called. Really? In your whole life?
0:38.8	I got called once before I didn't make the cut, but you guys have gotten called.
0:42.0	Many months ago. Actually, twice, but the second time I was on maternity leave and they gave me a pass.
0:47.2	Hey there, it's the MPR Politics podcast. I'm Susan Davis. I cover politics. I'm Deer Durewalsh,
0:52.0	I cover Congress. And I must m'achal it. I cover the White House. We may call this a strategic
0:58.0	competition, but it's not a polite tennis match. This is an existential struggle over what life will
1:06.5	look like in the 21st century. That is how Wisconsin Republican Mike Gallagher framed the US China
1:12.8	relationship last night in the first prime time hearing of the new house committee focused on
1:18.0	the relationship between our two nations. On this issue, maybe more than any other in Washington
1:23.2	right now, there does appear to be some level of bipartisanship. For his part, Illinois Congressman
1:28.3	Raja Krishnamorthy, the top Democrat on the panel, said the US must focus efforts on diplomatic
1:34.1	solutions. We do not want a war with the PRC, not a cold war, not a hot war. We don't want a clash
1:42.3	of civilizations, but we seek a durable peace. And that is why we have to deter aggression.
1:49.3	Deer Durewalsh, this was the first hearing of this new committee. They heard testimony from two
1:53.2	of former President Trump's national security advisors, HR McMaster and Matthew Pottenger.
1:58.0	What were your major takeaways? I thought the hearing was a pretty effective and kind of rare
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