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The Beat with Ari Melber

Convicted: Oath Keepers leader seditious conspiracy charge, GOP "autopsy" after red wave fizzles

The Beat with Ari Melber

MSNBC

Government, Daily News, Politics, News

4.64.1K Ratings

🗓️ 30 November 2022

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

MSNBC's Ari Melber hosts "The Beat" on Tuesday, November 29 and reports on Oath Keepers leader Stewart Rhodes convicted of seditious conspiracy and the GOP and RNC conducting an "autopsy" after midterm disappointments. Filmmaker Michael Moore and Chai Komanduri join. Plus, the latest edition of Mavericks with actor Jeff Goldblum.

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0:00.0

I am Ari Malber. This is the beat and we begin with the breaking news and what is the most significant January 6 verdict so far.

0:10.0

A breaking news day in law and for accountability for the insurrection that tried to overthrow the peaceful transfer of power.

0:18.0

I can tell you, full stop, this is the most significant verdict we've gotten in the series of cases around January 6.

0:25.0

We'll walk through the news for you right now, a federal jury finding the leader of the notorious Oatkeeper's militias to erode guilty on the most serious January 6 charge he faced, sedition, or what they technically call seditious conspiracy because multiple people were allegedly involved.

0:43.0

The whole plot was to violently prevent the peaceful transfer of power to violently prevent the certification of votes in a government proceeding, a term we would heard throughout this trial, that all culminated in the deadly insurrection on January 6.

0:56.0

There was more than one person in the conspiracy case, although he was the leader and the most significant and this is a major blow to the Oatkeeper's movement and those who looked at January 6 as some sort of test run that might be repeated in the future.

1:09.0

Another Oatkeeper's member, Kelly Megs, also convicted of seditious conspiracy, as well as other lesser charges against other individuals.

1:16.0

In all, there were five Oatkeepers, all five convicted of obstruction of an official proceeding and aiding and abetting.

1:22.0

You can see what are now convicted criminals on your screen, some of the most prominent leaders of the Trump aligned insurrection.

1:31.0

These people yesterday were presumed innocent and awaiting a verdict. Tonight for the first time I can tell you you are looking at the convicted felons who tried to overthrow the democracy of the United States of America.

1:44.0

I can also tell you that three of these individuals were convicted of the lesser crimes, for example, obstructing the proceeding that would secure the election results, but not the seditious conspiracy itself.

1:55.0

Three were cleared of that charge. The Rhodes is the most prominent figure to stand trial for the insurrection.

2:02.0

This is the first time a jury has squared up and looked and been presented directly with the people who did the violent part of the insurrection.

2:11.0

There were other parts of the attempted coup, but everyone understands why this was according to the Justice Department the most serious.

2:17.0

You have to remember Attorney General Garland cleared and approved the decision to aggressively pursue this as the decision, which was not automatic from the jump.

2:25.0

That wasn't automatically necessarily what would happen. Today, it indicates that decision with these two convictions, they face decades in prison.

2:33.0

Decades in prison. Now, I want to tell you what we're going to do. We have Michael Moore here on this. He has discussed many of the issues we're facing from Michigan out around the country.

2:43.0

The threat of right wing violence. He's here with us. Michael, I will see you in a moment as our top guest.

2:49.0

But first we begin with a report directly from the courthouse where Ryan Riley has been covering this case for MSNBC.

2:55.0

Welcome back. Ryan, I went through the charges. Walk us through as someone who's observed this case and the litigation strategy from the very beginning.

3:03.0

What it means when you see the DOJ win on the biggest charge against the leader of the Oathkeepers, the number one defendant in their size, it would seem to be a pretty strong day for them.

3:15.0

Yeah, I definitely think DOJ is chalking this up to a win overall. I mean, the suspicious conspiracy charges are very rarely brought.

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