Converting a Stoicism Skeptic with Novelist Amy Shearn
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🗓️ 11 November 2020
⏱️ 62 minutes
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Summary
Ryan talks with author Amy Shearn about her own journey with Stoicism, how she and Ryan both wrestle with the concepts of Stoicism in a modern context, the role of women in Stoicism, and more.
Amy Shearn is an American author and essayist. During the coronavirus pandemic, Shearn became fascinated by Stoicism; she wrote about her experience learning about, grappling with, and ultimately accepting Stoicism in a popular Medium article. Shearn has written in venues like The New York Times, Slate, Jane Magazine and more; she published her most recent novel, Unseen City, in September.
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| 1:28.2 | Hey, it's Ryan. Welcome to another episode, the DailyStoke Podcast. Probably, I know every few months I get an email from a reporter who's doing a trend piece about stoicism. |
| 1:41.2 | And invariably, I can see the direction of the piece from the questions alone. |
| 1:48.2 | It's usually how silly is it that these white guys in Silicon Valley are studying stoicism or what's with these crazy athletes interested in ancient philosophy or sometimes the pieces are a little bit more about me and I can tell they're sort of trying to see if there's something behind the curtain. |
| 2:07.2 | If this is somehow related to my earlier work on medium manipulation or whatever. |
| 2:14.2 | So I'm somewhat cynical about these pieces as they're happening. I'm always surprised that the author is doing it. It doesn't seem to me that anyone went to journalism school and then attack people for studying philosophy. |
| 2:27.2 | But such as the world as we actually talk about a little bit in lives of the stoics, there's always been a sort of a cynical, satirical take on the stoic, |
| 2:36.2 | stating back as far as cliantees and chrysipus. But I also know from a media standpoint, like sort of all presses, good press. It's not a big deal. I don't really, I don't know who these pieces are talking to and the impact is probably largely positive. |
| 2:54.2 | But anyways, when I got one a few months ago from Amy Shurina, an editor I know at medium where I often publish my writing, I was at least somewhat hopeful it would turn out well. |
| 3:09.2 | And she asked a few questions about how do the stoics feel about political engagement, what about resignation, are they resigned at the status quo. |
| 3:18.2 | They were interesting questions and I actually I just pulled it up. I was going to read some, she said, I'm writing a little something for the site about trying to explore stoicism. I was wondering if I could ask you a few questions. |
| 3:29.2 | Namely, she says as a modern stoic, you believe it like ancient stoicism says everything is governed by divine logic and our actions are essentially faded that your actions don't affect outcomes. |
| 3:38.2 | She says, I'm also having a hard time with the stoic idea of controlling your emotions and not worrying about what you can't control. |
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