Welcome to another episode of Conversations with Tom. I'm here with my dear friend Chase Jarvis.

Dude, it is so much fun getting to know you. So I'm excited to have you guys in a more informal set.

Yeah, and we're facing each other versus like the chairs with the audience and the, yeah, I love it.

Thank you for having me on the show. Oh man, for sure. Cool new format. I'm psyched.

I'm excited. It's been a lot of fun. We were talking about that just a second ago. It's nice to be able to

to really have a conversation and my goal is always to push my own thinking. So we were just talking about Facebook and one of the

the things that I think is problematic about where Facebook is going, there's a documentary. I think it's called the Great Hack, The Big Hack, The Something Hack.

And it's talking about all of our data and how it's being collected and how one of the problems with the Facebook algorithm and this I think is the problem is that what they found is things that are that

rile people up to get the flammatory stuff. Yeah, the inflammatory stuff is like, man, it fucking gets people commenting. It gets them on the platform.

And so that platform has sort of become that. And when I look at the difference between comments, say on my YouTube stream or comments on my Facebook channel, it's radically different.

And there's something, I've been thinking about this lately and I'm actually super curious to get your take on this. So I'm obsessed with neuroscience.

And so I always want to know what the neuroscience is behind something. But there is something about, and maybe this would fall into what Jordan Peterson calls the dark try at a personality traits.

There's a reason that people use the word dark on that. So when I think about inflammatory stuff, there's just a negativity to it.

So if a platform is more and more inflammatory, like even though I feel the same instinct to like go fucking rage out, it's not an energy I like.

So I'm like, I'm just going to step back and like it. Yeah. So maybe here's something you like neuroscience obviously and that the human biology is negatively oriented out of survival bias.

And so maybe there's a lens that's going on there with the if we if Facebook prior it if it's algorithm prioritizes those things and it starts it and then rewards that behavior.

It's holding a candle or a flame. Yeah. And it's not necessarily dissimilar to if it leads it leads from this, you know, 60 70s 80s TV.

But the part that it's we're hardwired to engage in negativity bias. So if it leads its leads, that's something bad happen to someone else.

This is like it's because it allows for in for for an exchange of ideas in a really inflammatory way. So I don't know.

But here's here's my question. And this is what's got me thinking about this lately. When I really think about that, it is not an emotion that I enjoy.

Like I don't want to be involved in something that makes me feel that way that has that dark energy. Like it's it's gross.

Even so anger has real something real to it. And it there are times where anger has made me feel more powerful. And so I fully understand the range of human emotion.

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