The truth is not fun and comfortable, the science is not always clear, but in my opinion personally it is easier for me to understand the situation.

Say, you know what, I'm afraid of this, this is scary, this is uncomfortable, I hate this situation.

Okay, now that I've dealt with that, what is the best that I can do even if it's not perfect?

Are we yes? Where are we here? Why are we here not entirely clear?

We are misfits grossed into existence by random chance with no hints at all as to how we're supposed to make sense of it all.

It's immensely bizarre. Here we are.

Hello everybody and welcome to the here we are podcast today's guest is Susanna Harris. Susanna thanks for joining me by the way.

Of course, thanks for having me.

I'm going to be so here's why you're on my show. I don't know a ton of what you do, but I've been following you on social media and this is you just seemed like the perfect person to have a conversation about this.

So I know that you're I know that you're you do a lot of science communication. I know that you've had some success on social media and stuff doing it.

And I also so from a selfish point of view, little bit about myself, I was a stand up comic and then I started doing the science podcast and science themed comedy shows and stuff.

And I've been less and less interested in comedy and more and more interested in science through the years and especially since COVID, I've been figuring trying to figure out like, well, how do I get more into science communication.

And so this is partially selfish for me talking to you, but also I know a lot of my listeners are a lot of people that aren't scientists themselves, but really curious and interested in science and try to communicate some of the ideas that they learn from this show to other people in their lives.

And might take from a lot of your posts is you do a better job of that than I do and might have some advice for people. And then also you you seem very interested in mental health, which is, which is a really important topic on this show as well.

So that's why I reached out to you. So can you tell the listeners a little bit about yourself.

Yeah, absolutely. And it's it's really cool when when you reach out to me, I was like, what is this podcast about what is happening? Is it funny? Is it it is funny, but it's not exactly it's meant to be.

Yeah, it's like some laughs here and there.

Yeah, it's entertaining.

So yeah, I let's see. So I actually a group in Iowa, I went to the University of Iowa for undergrad and I went to the University of Iowa for undergrad partially because I lived in Iowa, but also because while I was a high school student, didn't really know what I wanted to do knew that I loved science knew that I really particularly loved biology.

And I took this one class that was like an AP bio class and for one week, just two different sections, we talked about bacteria and viruses. And I found out that there's actually viruses that infect bacteria and that it's happening all over the world and actually inside of your body right now.

And I was like, that is the coolest thing I've ever heard. I don't know what people do with that for their job, but it turned out that I could get a degree in it.

I needed to go to college anyway. So I went to the University of Iowa because it has a really good microbiology program. And while I was there, kind of followed that same path of saying, well, what am I, what am I excited about and how can I find a way to make that my main activity that sort of has followed along with me.

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