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The Atlas Obscura Podcast

Controlled Cold with Nicky Twilley

The Atlas Obscura Podcast

SiriusXM Podcasts & Atlas Obscura

Society & Culture, Places & Travel

4.61.6K Ratings

🗓️ 6 June 2024

⏱️ 29 minutes

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Summary

We get a crash course in the fascinating temperature-controlled ecosystem we’ve created to keep our food fresh – and available – all year round. Our guide is Nicky Twilley, co-host of the Gastropod podcast and author of the new book called Frostbite: How Refrigeration Changed our Food, Our Planet, and Ourselves.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Today we take a journey into eternal winter, a place so cold that everything slows down,

0:13.2

microbes, metabolic processes, the human body,

0:17.0

but we are not going to some trench deep

0:19.7

in the abyss of the ocean or some far-flung planet or even Antarctica. We are staying very close to home.

0:29.1

We are walking into the kitchen and opening the refrigerator.

0:35.0

It is astonishing the miracle of having domesticated cold.

0:40.0

When you think about it, humans domesticating fire, people say that's sort of what made us human.

0:45.5

We domesticated cold incredibly recently.

0:49.7

This is Nicky Twilly.

0:51.2

She's one of my favorite thinkers and writers about the strangeness of our

0:55.3

modern world. She's the co-host of the Gastro Pod Podcast and she's the author of a new book called

1:02.1

Frostbite. How how refrigeration changed our food, our planet, and ourselves.

1:06.5

And man, for a topic that at first might not seem super sexy, boy, is it a wild ride?

1:14.0

A fridge wasn't standard in American households until the 30s and 40s, ice-making ability later

1:20.0

still. And so this domestication of cold is very recent and I think equally

1:27.9

transformative and important to take a look at.

1:31.3

Cold is a big business these days,

1:35.0

and refrigeration has come a very long way

1:38.0

since the icebox.

1:39.0

It is transformed into something we call

1:42.0

the cold chain.

1:44.0

I'm Delan Thuris and this is Atlas Obscura,

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