Dress, the history of fashion, is a production of I Heart Radio.

With over 7 billion people in the world, we all have one thing common.

Every day, we all get dressed. Welcome to Dress, the history of fashion, a podcast that

explores the who, what, when, of why we wear. We are fashion historians and your host,

Cassidy Zachary. And April Callian. So, Cass, today is our continuation of our conversation

with Aja Barber, who joined us earlier this week to discuss her newly released book,

Consumed the Need for Collective Change, Colonialism, Climate Change, and Consumerism,

which all of our listeners definitely need to read. The book covers critical conversations

that all of us really need to be having right now, including how our consumption of clothing

impacts the very real day-to-day lives of millions of garment workers around the world.

Also, how the current fashion system profits off of racial injustice and the legacy of colonialism.

And how all of this ties into the fact that our planet is in distress, if not peril.

And while these might be heavy issues, Dress listeners, Aja's book is an energetic and friendly

read, we cannot recommend it enough. And our episode today is part two of our two-part episode,

and we will address what we as individuals and consumers can do to create positive change

while still getting dressed. Aja, welcome back to the show.

The second half of your book actually is dedicated to this entire concept of how we can get

off that wheel. So you talk about a lot of what you see as solutions to these issues.

What can consumers do? And also, this is a bigger question, so maybe these are two different

questions. But what does corporate responsibility look like versus corporate culpability? I mean,

Oh, I would say corporate responsibility is bullshit. Like that's really,

don't just anything on a corporate responsibility page, because here's the thing. I used to do this,

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