This is the Hidden Killers podcast with Tony Bruske and continuing coverage of the case against Karen Reid.

It is, and we are breaking down today where it all stands as we, as of recording of this, getting close to closing statements, and then it will be in the hands of the jury.

Who knows what's going on by the time you

watch this? Maybe Karen just flew to the moon randomly. Just flew up and did it because it's possible,

but not probable. We've learned that about vehicles flying into space with UFOs in this trial.

Lots of things we've learned. Joining me to discuss, Eric Fattis, defense attorney, former prosecutor, I got a lot of things

I want to kind of break through today, but first I just want to throw it to you. Here we are.

Both sides have gone. There is no, the prosecution's not coming back again. It's just

going to be closing arguments now. Where do you think it stands?

What's your thoughts on the case?

Now, this is a textbook handling of a retrial by the prosecution foreseeing all of the conspiracy

theories and trying their best to preempt those. Certainly defense scored some points here and there,

but I think the overall picture of the case at this stage in the second trial is a lot different

than the first. That I think it's weighing in favor of the prosecution. Yeah, it's, I was very

surprised by the defense this round. I think a lot of us thought, okay, well, they're going to bring in their greatest hits again, because that seems to be, what I think a lot of people walked away going, oh, well, that's why there was a hung jury last time, because there did seem to be reasonable doubt in the last trial, not so much this one. But the last one was the whole conspiracy. He was beat up and that da-da-da-da-da. They never really got

into the whole he was beat-up theory. They never brought in Proctor. They never really brought in

any of that to the larger extent. They just kind of kept randomly throwing in the dog without context, which didn't make a lot of

sense to me. Were they hoping the dog was going to land better with some of these experts?

Then they could, you know, kind of, I don't say weasel, but weasel their way into adding in

more of the third party culprit theory? Or what the hell happened happened here is this all they wanted to do is

say chloe if he bit him doesn't give very hard bites and he's dead i don't i don't quite get what

the point even was about the dog that's been ongoing issue in the second trial with the defense

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