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🗓️ 28 May 2023
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A Consensus 2023 panel with Laura Shin and Michael Sonnenshein.
Grayscale’s now-publicly traded bitcoin trust was the original way for U.S. investors to gain exposure to the asset without the headache of setting up a wallet. For a time, it was the only game in town, and handsomely profitable for investors who tolerated the initial 12-month lockup period. The CEO of the world’s largest digital asset manager candidly discusses GBTC’s evolution and his perspective on the challenges of the last two years, including the collapse of the trust shares’ premium to net asset value, evolving investor demands and new competition, and broader regulatory hurdles and the subsequent legal battle to convert the product into a more investor-friendly structure: an ETF.
Laura Shin, author and podcast host of “Unchained,” moderates the panel featuring Michael Sonnenshein, CEO of Grayscale Investments.
This episode is executive produced by Jared Schwartz and edited by Ryan Huntington, with additional production assistance from Eleanor Pahl. Cover image by Kevin Ross and the theme song is "Get Down" by Elision.
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0:00.0 | Hi, everyone, welcome to our panel in the eye of the Crypto Storm. |
0:21.6 | I definitely would say that Michael's position in the industry is sort of like that at this moment. |
0:28.6 | So why don't we start with your lawsuit? |
0:32.6 | Okay. |
0:33.6 | Which is probably the biggest news about grayscale. |
0:42.7 | And as far as I understand, you filed a lawsuit because you felt that the SEC was not treating your application to turn GBT into a Bitcoin ETF the same way that it's treated |
0:49.3 | other investment vehicles. |
0:51.2 | I just could imagine, from a regulator's perspective, they might say, wow, look at the |
0:56.1 | sheer number of failures in crypto last year. And there's this alleged fraud that's just massive, |
1:03.1 | billions of dollars, plus taroluna collapsing. I mean, so many, so many failures. And so |
1:09.1 | they probably think that kind of like extra scrutiny is warranted. |
1:13.8 | So what would your response be to them? Well, so the timeline of our lawsuit and the issue that |
1:19.5 | we're litigating over is a little bit different than the recent collapses in crypto and |
1:24.0 | crypto winter. So at Gray Scale, our flagship fund |
1:27.6 | and our longest running fund is the Grayscale Bitcoin Trust. |
1:30.4 | And it's a product that was always conceived |
1:32.8 | to not only be in the public market, |
1:34.6 | but ultimately to be an ETF. |
1:37.0 | And when it progressed through Grayscale's, |
1:39.7 | you know, very regimented life cycle |
1:41.9 | and ultimately filed to become an ETF, |
1:44.1 | we got to the end of a road |
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