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Sounds True: Insights at the Edge

Connie Zweig: “Meeting One of the World’s Leading Experts on the Shadow”

Sounds True: Insights at the Edge

Tami Simon

Religion, Religion & Spirituality

4.61.8K Ratings

🗓️ 17 June 2025

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

As a new generation joins the search for understanding and meaning in our ambiguous and uncertain world, there's a growing resurgence of interest in the Shadow—Carl Jung's famous term for the aspects of ourselves that hide in our unconscious yet often drive behaviors we'd rather not repeat. In this podcast, Tami Simon speaks with acclaimed Jungian therapist and author Dr. Connie Zweig about her life's mission to help us grow in self-awareness and move toward personal and collective healing by learning how to work with the Shadow. 

This aha-moment-filled conversation explores: meeting the Shadow on the spiritual path; ego formation during childhood; the concept of repression and the problem with the closet metaphor; why the Shadow hides—and when it erupts; "romancing the Shadow"; three cues to explore with respect to compulsive behaviors; "Shadow characters" and the practice of personifying aspects of the Shadow; the intergenerational aspect; engaging Shadow work at midlife; the superego; projection in relationships; sharing our secrets; money, sex, and power; shifting from a persona marriage to a Shadow marriage; the Vedanta tradition and the teaching on leshavidya, "the remains of ignorance"; the moral development missing in many spiritually advanced practitioners; illusions, idealizations, and archetypal projections; why the first reaction to meeting the Shadow is denial; Shadow projection in the politics of our times; step one: self-examination; bridging inner work and outer work wisely; how to practice "holding the tension of opposites"; cultivating nonduality in your own psychology; the "third thing" and the transcendent function; and more.

Note: This episode originally aired on Sounds True One, where these special episodes of Insights at the Edge are available to watch live on video and with exclusive access to Q&As with our guests. Learn more at join.soundstrue.com.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello, friends, I'm Tammy Simon, and I'd like to invite you to listen to the Tara Brock podcast,

0:08.1

hosted by the best-selling author, beloved meditation teacher, and dear friend of Sounds True.

0:15.6

Tara's podcast features guided meditations and talks on living with mindfulness,

0:21.6

being compassionate towards ourselves and others,

0:25.2

putting our love into action,

0:27.6

and much, much more.

0:29.3

It's everything we turn to Tara for,

0:32.2

and you can find it anywhere you listen to podcasts.

0:42.1

Thank you. anywhere you listen to podcasts. The shadow leads us around looking for the missing parts in us.

0:48.4

And we find them, we think we find them, in the other person.

0:52.8

That person is so independent, she'll never be needy.

0:56.2

That guy is so strong, he'll take care of me.

0:59.6

Or whatever the fantasy projection is onto the other person.

1:04.4

And then often what happens is people get married in this romantic projection phase.

1:12.2

And then they wake up one day and they go,

1:15.1

oh my God, this isn't the person I married.

1:17.8

What happened?

1:21.5

In this episode of Insights at the Edge,

1:24.0

my guest is Connie's Weig,

1:26.3

one of the world's leading experts on The Shadow.

1:30.7

She's a retired Jungian therapist and co-author of the acclaimed books, Meeting the Shadow,

1:37.8

and Romancing the Shadow. With her book, The Inner Work of Age, shifting from role to soul,

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