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The Way Out Is In

Connecting to Our Roots: Ancestors, Continuation and Transformation (Episode #5)

The Way Out Is In

Plum Village

Buddhism, Mental Health, Religion & Spirituality, Self-improvement, Health & Fitness, Education

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🗓️ 9 September 2021

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Welcome to episode five of The Way Out Is In: The Zen Art of Living, a podcast series mirroring Zen Master Thich Nhat Hanh’s deep teachings of Buddhist philosophy: a simple yet profound methodology for dealing with our suffering, and for creating more happiness and joy in our lives. In this episode, hosts Zen Buddhist monk Brother Phap Huu and lay Buddhist practitioner and journalist Jo Confino talk about connecting to our roots, and the three lineages in Buddhism: spiritual, blood, and land ancestry.They further share about what it means to be a continuation of blood ancestors; transforming the suffering of our ancestors for ourselves and our descendants by healing the past in the present moment; honoring land ancestors and creating harmony with the land we live on; dealing with estranged parents; reconnecting to past wisdom to help a society in crisis; transcending the individual frame of mind.You’ll also discover what the red and white roses mean in the Rose Ceremony which celebrates parents; and why a former Gestapo building was turned into a monastery.Brother Phap Huu recollects growing up in a Buddhist family and its daily ways of honoring ancestors, and what it was like to move from East to West as a child. He also expands on spiritual ancestors; transforming land and memories; the power of collective energy; trees as ancestry.  Jo recalls his mother’s suffering during the Nazi regime, her subsequent journey of forgiveness, and considers the power to heal our parents’ suffering in the present moment. He also comments on the consequences of the lack of connection to ancestors for Western consumerist societies; reports on a feng shui story in Hong Kong; and considers why it’s best to be responsible stewards rather than owners.Finally, Brother Phap Huu ends the episode with a guided meditation connecting us to our parents and ancestors. Co-produced by the Plum Village App:https://plumvillage.app/ And Global Optimism:https://globaloptimism.com/ With support from the Thich Nhat Hanh Foundation:https://thichnhathanhfoundation.org/ List of resourcesThe Rose Ceremony https://plumvillage.org/thay-shares-about-a-rose-for-your-pocket/  Kristallnachthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristallnacht  Joanna Macyhttps://www.joannamacy.net/main  Old Path White Cloudshttps://www.parallax.org/product/old-path-white-clouds-walking-in-the-footsteps-of-the-buddha/  Sutrahttps://plumvillage.org/sutra/  Quotes “We are a stream, a lineage, and we have roots and that give us grounding.”  “When I meet somebody, I never meet that person as an individual, I meet their entire lineage.” “I am a representation not of just myself, but of an entire history of a group of people.” “With our ancestors, we can do the things that they were not able to do.”  “If we see that we are our parents’ continuation, we can have more understanding for them and more love for them.”  “Having compassion for our ancestors means having compassion for ourselves, because we are their continuation, and because we will become an ancestor.” “The practice of mindfulness and the teachings of the Buddha tell us that we can transform for our parents, for our ancestors. And if we have that chance, then our descendants can be free from suffering.” “If we heal something in the present, we heal the past, because our ancestors are not just gone and buried. They are in us, so we’re healing both ourselves and our ancestors within us. And by doing this healing, we’re changing our future because we’re not passing that [negativity] on.”  “Whenever you listen to the Buddha’s teachings, ask yourself, ‘How can I apply this to my daily life?’ The teachings have to continue to be renewed because they have to be relevant.” “What have we got? Well, we can shop. We can amass things. But when Thich Nhat Hanh talks about a stream or a river, when we understand that

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0:00.0

Dear listeners, welcome to the latest episode of the podcast series The Way Out is In. I am Joe Konfino and I am Brother Who and to do.

0:20.0

I am Joe Confino and I am brother Fabahoo and today we're going to be looking at ancestors in the east

0:28.4

ancestors are very important because they give us a sense of where we come from and also where we're going.

0:35.0

And it's not just our blood ancestors.

0:37.0

We'll be also looking at our spiritual ancestors and also our land ancestors.

0:42.0

And the most important thing to learn

0:44.5

is that we are not alone.

0:48.7

The way out is in. Brother Fappuw, who, you wanted to talk about ancestors today.

1:07.0

That's correct.

1:08.0

And so I, a couple of years ago I did one of these DNA tests and it said that I was 2% Neanderthal.

1:15.0

Wow. Is that what we're talking about today? Is that the ancestors we're talking about or is it something different?

1:21.0

We're going to be talking about our roots and in spirituality and in

1:26.9

Buddhism we talk about two lineage, our spiritual ancestor and our blood

1:31.8

ancestors.

1:33.0

Right, so can you tell us the difference and why is that important?

1:37.0

So let us begin by looking at our blood ancestors because as a human being we have the tendency to think that we are

1:48.8

an individual and there's nothing connected to us but actually for us to manifest we rely on so many different conditions and our ancestors are one of our core conditions because they are there, they were there, therefore we are here.

2:07.3

So having the insight that we are part of a lineage gives us roots and I think for some people that can be an

2:18.5

important awareness it allows us to see that we are a stream, a lineage, and we have a roots and that gives us

2:27.0

grounding.

2:28.0

So, you know, we are doing this recording from the Plum Village Monastery of Zen Master Tignat Han.

2:35.0

And I remember once that when I interviewed him, just reflecting on what you said,

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