Thank you for listening to the Allender Center podcast.

I'm Dr. Dan Allender.

And I'm Rachel Clinton-Centen.

We're fiercely committed to providing hope and healing to a fragmented world.

And restoration for the heart.

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Let's get this conversation started.

Thank you for joining us. Let's get this conversation started. All right, Rachel, I have a very simple question for you. You ready? Sure. All right. Did your life make sense? I mean, honestly, I kind of want to say

yeah. I want to know how come. Because the question that that beginning moves toward is I'm aware we're coming up to the school's 25th anniversary.

That's one example. And then recently, Becky and I lost a very dear friend. And in that death, it's prompted a lot of stories.

But what I think I've found is we're all, you know, I mean, we begin to talk about how many stories actually are we?

It's millions.

And even though I was part with a number of others of the start of Marseille that eventually

became the Seattle School, with regard to our friend Lenn, there are just so many stories.

And yet what I find is they're almost disparate. It's like largely like here's a story,

here's another story. And I kind of know that my life has a certain sense ability, a certain

thematic consistency. But I think I'm more aware right now of just how, like, scattered, at least my stories

are.

Now, that might be largely because of the reality of trauma that death brings.

But I think that's what I'm, I'm wanting at least for us to engage.

How do we connect stories in a way that allows the stories to connect versus, like, Becky has,

I don't know, how many freaking volumes of pictures, but they're all time-related. They're not...

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