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Congressional Action Needed for Voting Rights Act Reform Richard Epstein Richard Epstein discusses the Supreme Court arguments concerning the Voting Rights Act of 1965 being used for racial gerrymandering. Epstein argues the issue requires comprehensive l

The John Batchelor Show

John Batchelor

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4.52.8K Ratings

🗓️ 17 October 2025

⏱️ 2 minutes

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Congressional Action Needed for Voting Rights Act Reform Richard Epstein

Richard Epstein discusses the Supreme Court arguments concerning the Voting Rights Act of 1965 being used for racial gerrymandering. Epstein argues the issue requires comprehensive legislative reform, not piecemeal court action. He suggests Congress should repeal the 1965 Act and start over with a system that reflects contemporary thinking, although he notes there is no congressional appetite for compromise.
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colleague Richard Epstein of the Civitas Institute about the Supreme Court oral arguments

0:27.7

about the Voting Rights Act of 1965 and what is to be done using it as a gerrymandering tool

0:35.2

for racial gerrymandering, and can it be adjusted?

0:40.1

Justice Kavanaugh said that the whole idea was it would time itself out, and what is the time?

0:47.1

I ask Richard the same question.

0:49.4

Richard's approach is not comprehensive.

0:53.7

It is tactical, however. The Congress, not the courts, must

0:59.6

attend. However, here's Richard to say, here's what must be done. Here's why it likely won't be

1:06.6

done. Voting Rights Act, 1965 1965 not contemporary thinking

1:11.9

but much more of this tonight

1:14.6

do you remember the famous affirmative action cases

1:17.6

where there's Justice Connor said in 2003

1:20.5

we're quite sure this problem will be solved in 20 years

1:23.2

so let's write it remember that

1:24.9

yes well it hasn't been solved obviously in 20 years anybody who knew or was going on knew that it wasn't that? Yes. Well, it hasn't been solved, obviously, in 20 years.

1:28.0

Anybody who knew what was going on knew that it wasn't.

1:30.4

Well, if they don't provide a timeline, they've not solved anything.

1:34.2

That means it'll...

1:35.1

A timeline is essentially perpetual no matter what it's said, because the next court can

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