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Hello Ryan here. All right, just me for this introduction today because brandy is off in a way

in a different country shooting something exciting that everyone will watch pretty soon. I'm sure.

But today I wanted to re-air an older episode, old old episode, like almost a decade old episode.

So the guest on today's episode just released a new book. It's called The Shards. His name is

Brett Easton Ellis. You might know him from some prior work like American Psycho. That became

pretty big. They don't actually end up talking about books, but they do end up talking about

reality TV obviously and housewives and Brett's opinion on how it's all cut together and his

opinion on brandy. It's an interesting conversation because at this time when they had this conversation

she was still on housewives. But before Brett comes on, Brandy has a conversation with Leslie

Bruce who co-wrote Brandy's two books, both best sellers, Leslie and Brandy dive into basically

Brandy's fame and basically how the books came to fruition. And I think it's another very

interesting conversation. Anyway, like I said, this episode was published almost a decade ago.

The exact date of publication was January 28th, 2014. So we're going to jump in right now with Brandy

and the co-author of her books, Leslie Bruce. From straw hut media.

This is Brandy Glanville on Phil.

Welcome to Brandy Glanville Unfiltered. I am sitting here with one of my best friends and the

co-author of both of my books and a for name. Yeah, that is Leslie and Bruce. I mean, we'll get

Yashar, your husband, his final last name even though we didn't give it to him in the book. He's

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