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Deconstructed

Confronting the Consequences of Obama’s Foreign Policy

Deconstructed

The Intercept

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4.84.7K Ratings

🗓️ 22 June 2018

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Barack Obama was one of the most polarizing presidents of the modern era. To the right, he was a weak, feckless leader and to the left, he was the Deporter in Chief and Drone President who bombed villages in Pakistan and assassinated Americans without trial in Yemen. While Obama did embrace the U.S. empire — killing civilians and selling weapons to some awful regimes — he also pulled some of the biggest diplomatic breakthroughs of our time, negotiating the Iran nuclear deal, getting the U.S. to sign up to the Paris Climate Accords, and re-opening ties with Cuba. With Trump now in office, is it time to recognize that Obama wasn’t as bad as we thought, or did Obama’s excesses, whether in the Middle East or at the Mexico border, lead the way to Trump’s? Ben Rhodes, Obama’s national security adviser, joins Mehdi Hasan on this week’s episode to discuss the Obama legacy and whether it seeped into the Trump administration.

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0:00.0

You know, we did what we could to prohibit torture,

0:02.5

including working to legislate that change.

0:05.6

For Barack Obama, who's coming into office,

0:07.9

the disruption of taking on a prosecution of US officials

0:13.5

would have been a consuming thing for him to do.

0:19.8

Welcome to Deconstructed, I'm Mehdi Hassan.

0:22.5

Barack Obama was one of the most polarizing presidents

0:25.5

of the modern era, and his foreign policy was particularly polarizing.

0:30.2

To liberals the world over, he was like Neo from the Matrix.

0:33.7

He was the one, the Messiah, who came to fix the world order

0:37.2

after the chaos and crimes that came before him,

0:40.1

who we claim America from the Bush machine.

0:42.9

Obama even won a Nobel Peace Prize in his first year in office,

0:46.3

as I would say, simply for not being George W. Bush.

0:49.2

Clear-eyed, we can understand that there will be war

0:52.3

and still strive for peace.

0:54.2

We can do that, for that is the story of human progress.

0:58.1

To his right-wing critics, though,

0:59.6

Obama was a weak, feckless leader who led from behind

1:03.2

and went on apology tours while failing to crack down

1:06.8

on radical Islamic terrorism or quote unquote illegal immigrants.

1:11.3

Thousands of Americans would be alive today

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