Hi, everybody.

We have an amazing guest today.

My friend Rob, Vlad and colleague and co-counsel.

They do pond cases in part of the West Virginia in the PFAD.

We call PFAS, which is the family of chemicals.

At that time, we were calling it C8 or PFOA.

Those are part of that family.

And we've done a lot of litigation on that all over the country.

Rob is famous, large as Mark Rufflin played in film Dark Waters,

which is the film had a rough one made about the case.

And Rob, and I'm at the first thing,

and I think it was in 2016,

I think the federal court house in Cincinnati,

when we were about to begin trying that first case.

I was lucky enough to be part of the legal team,

but you actually had a, before I met you at the 16 years ago,

that took you from being a corporate lawyer

in one of the most hardcore white shoe pro-corporate law firms in America.

Robert Taff, the president's old law firm,

it took you to being one of the major most important plaintiffs lawyers in America.

And disrupting your life and pissing off your partners.

I think pretty much stood by you,

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