Is the United States at risk of losing its technological edge?

As it cracks down on university research funding, pushes away international students, and falls behind China in some key disciplines.

Let's talk about it with former Secretary of State and Hoover Institution Director Condoleezza Rice, who's here with us in studio at Stanford today. Secretary Rice,

welcome to the show. It's a pleasure to be with you. So we find ourselves in an interesting

moment right now. The U.S. has long been viewed as the leader in technology, but you look at

China. They're the leader in battery technology, the leader in EVs. You can make an argument that they're leading in humanoid robots, and they just came for

RAI industry with Deepseek.

So is the U.S. in danger of losing its lead to China right now?

This is actually a really interesting story because I think we're seeing a pattern here.

The United States will lead in innovation, lead in discovery,

and then somehow we manage to lose that edge. So battery technology is an excellent example.

We actually invented battery technology, and somehow now we've lost the lead. So I'm very interested in why this keeps happening.

You know, some of it may be that the innovations are not ready for the market.

They don't have a commercial value.

And so they sort of faded to the background.

They get picked up because we're very open about our innovation and our research.

You can read it anywhere.

And so China has done very well

taking American discovery and innovation and then creating a market for it. So it's something

we have to be very careful about because when you come to AI, and I know we'll talk more about

this, you're talking about what my friend Feiaye Faye Lee calls us civilizational technology,

and that would be very different than losing the lead in, say, battery technology. So you're on to

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