Welcome to the TFO football podcast. We've got an extra special episode for you today.

It's going to be all about concussion. To talk about it, we've got the CEO of the Concussion legacy foundation Dr. Chris Newinsky who many of you may know he's had an amazing life with a lot of very different experiences played American football at Harvard, he was a professional wrestler with the

WWE, had his career finished by concussion.

And in the years since, his dedicated his life to developing understanding and education around concussion.

It really is an amazing story. I hope people learn a lot from it and enjoy listening to Chris.

We obviously we ignore the specifics of the Rahel Jimenez and David

Louis incident from a few days ago just because that would make a time specific. We want this to be a more general conversation

and something which people can hopefully call back to as and when, but I hope it's

useful and here's Chris. Chris, thank you so so much for joining us. I know that there will be people listening who know who you are and know about your personal journey,

but it's probably worth running through it again.

Yeah, it's not quite a linear path.

It's not traditional.

No, no, no, so yeah, so I had a good time playing a lot of American football and bashing my head and took a regular job actually in the health care world but got scared of being in a cubicle. And this opportunity opened up to give professional wrestling a try.

And having done sports and theater,

I'm being a fan, I went for it and had a blast

and had a lot of success very quickly and was on Monday night,

raw, you know, within a year and a half of my first day in the ring.

But unfortunately what comes with that lack of an experience, or that lack of experience was a few too many concussions and I had to retire from post-concussion syndrome in 2003.

It's quite difficult to, because obviously we live in a kind of a post-awareness world where people

understand concussion in a different way to how they did when I was growing up, certainly.

I'm 36 now and, you know, when I was a teenager, when I was was younger having a concussion was almost like a badge of honor it was a well I played hard

You know got my bell rung and I you know played on again

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