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Concerns Over ICE Training and Tactics Reach Boiling Point

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News Commentary, News, Politics

4.2 • 727 Ratings

🗓️ 15 January 2026

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

An ICE officer’s fatal shooting of Renee Macklin Good last week in Minneapolis—and the Trump administration’s response — have stirred both outrage and fear across the country. The shooting has renewed concerns in California about immigration agents’ aggressive tactics. And it’s raised questions about whether ICE officers are receiving proper training as the agency rapidly expands its ranks to carry out President Trump’s immigration crackdown. We analyze ICE’s tactics and hear about efforts to rein in the agency, and about what the future may hold as federal authorities set their sights on more American cities. Guests: Rep. Ro Khanna, Congressman for California's 17th Congressional District (Silicon Valley) Jill Cowan, reporter covering Southern California, New York Times Scott Savage, police training consultant; recently retired California law enforcement officer with 24 years of experience Ben Jones, assistant professor of ethics and public policy, Pennsylvania State University; author of the forthcoming book, "Protecting Life: The Ethics of Police Deadly Force" Noah Hurowitz, reporter covering federal law enforcement, The Intercept Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The killing of Renee Magland Good by an ICE officer last week in Minneapolis and the Trump

1:01.0

administration's response have stirred both outrage and fear across the country.

1:05.8

It has renewed concerns in California about immigration agents' aggressive tactics.

1:10.2

And it's raised questions about

1:11.7

ICE officers training as the agency rapidly expands its ranks to carry out President Trump's

1:17.2

immigration crackdown.

1:18.9

This hour, we take a closer look at ISIS tactics and what can be done to rein in an agency

1:23.8

that appears to act with impunity. On Tuesday, Department of Homeland Security posted this

1:29.8

from White House Deputy Tifa staff Stephen Miller. To all ICE officers, you have federal immunity

1:35.9

in the conduct of your duties. And anybody who lays a hand on you or tries to stop you or

1:41.5

tries to obstruct you is committing a felony. You have immunity

1:45.6

to perform your duties, and no one, no city official, no state official, no illegal alien,

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