My mother raised me basically because my dad, who was an evangelist, was away from home two-thirds of the year.

I mean, my mother ran a small business. She taught me how to cut the grass.

She helped me with algebra. She taught me everything. There wasn't anything she couldn't do.

Therefore, it never entered my mind that what was

going on here in the dance of submission and headship was inferiority, or competency-based

headship. I don't believe in either of those. Welcome to the Crossway podcast, a show where we sit

down with authors each week for thoughtful

interviews about the Bible, theology, church history, and the Christian life. I'm Matt Tully, and today

I'm talking with John Piper. John is the founder and teacher of Desiring God.org and the Chancellor

of Bethlehem College and Seminary. He served for 33 years as the senior pastor of Bethlehem Baptist Church

in Minneapolis, Minnesota, and as the author of more than 50 books, including Why I Love the

Apostle Paul, 30 Reasons. Today, John and I discuss the case for complementarianism. He shares about

how his own upbringing and the example of his parents influenced his views on marriage,

what a husband's leadership practically looks like day in and day out,

and how we should think about complementarianism in the Me Too era.

Let's get started.

John, thank you for joining me on the Crossby podcast today.

Thank you so much. I'm glad to be here.

One doctrinal emphasis that has characterized your ministry over the years

has been quite controversial at times is complementarianism.

Was there ever a time in your life that you struggled to understand or accept what you now believe scripture

clearly teaches about men and women's roles in the home and the church?

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