It's never been a better time to build in crypto.

And, you know, to look at this point, you can really feel that we're in this inflection point at the moment.

The great entrepreneurs will get greater.

More people in the middle are going to be looking for a way to kind of find opportunity.

There's no better opportunity than navigating the on-chain rails that is crypto rails.

And I also think that the top entrepreneurs from other industries are really starting to come in here and starting to compete, which I think is going to raise the bar for everyone.

Hey, everyone. If you're watching this rather than listening, apologies that I could not be on video for this episode.

Regardless, this was a fun conversation with Luca Nets and Brandon Milman about how crypto goes mainstream and which players are well positioned to bring the masses on chain.

Some of the more interesting questions we raised

were around the future of Coinbase, which is trying for the first time to be a more

product-focused company. Luca feels like it should focus on its core strength, which is around

business deals. Meanwhile, Brandon feels that in Everything app is just an impossible task.

Both Brandon and Luca see

Stripe and Robin Hood as strong players to contend with, and Luca also surprised me when he said

that he felt like World Liberty Financial could be a dark horse. Finally, we also talk about how one of the

big opportunities is to replicate the business models of successful fintechs, but to do so in a borderless

way on blockchain rails. In fact, Luca is a super fan of Phantom, and he seems to think

that Phantom could exploit this opportunity. And perhaps Phantom could even leverage the

Salana Seeker or another phone to do so. Plus, we cover why it is that incumbents are likely to fumble the ball, and at least in the

case of PayPal, seem to have already lost their opportunity.

As always, I hope you enjoy the show.

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