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The Dispatch Podcast

Common Ground

The Dispatch Podcast

The Dispatch

Politics, News

4.4 • 3K Ratings

🗓️ 20 May 2025

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

Two governors walk into the Reagan Library and find common ground. Steve Hayes is joined by Utah Governor Spencer Cox (R) and New Mexico Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham (D), to discuss bipartisanship, mutual respect, and the value of healthy conflict. The Agenda:—Defining tribes—Media outrage and news cycles—We should all join bowling teams—We can’t explain policy in 280 characters—Intra-party tensions Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I'm here with Fred Ryan, who's the chairman of the board of the Reagan Foundation and Institute.

0:34.7

And we are here in Seamy Valley. I've just had a wonderful tour of the Reagan

0:39.4

Museum, the Reagan Library, and we are about to participate a panel discussion this evening with

0:47.2

Governor Spencer Cox of Utah and Governor Michelle Lujan Grisham from New Mexico, a Republican, a Democrat, and welcome.

1:18.4

Welcome to everyone here at the Reagan Library and those who are joining us across the country on video.

1:24.6

I'm Fred Ryan, chairman of the Reagan Foundation Institute, where we're delighted to

1:29.1

welcome so many distinguished guests here this evening, including New Mexico Governor Michelle

1:33.5

Lujan Gwisham and Governor Spencer Cox of Utah.

1:37.1

Earlier this year, our Center on Stability and Democracy conducted a national survey.

1:42.3

We wanted to see how Americans are feeling about the future of our

1:45.8

country and how strong their faith is in democracy. And what we found gives us some cause for concern,

1:53.5

but also some cause for optimism. It was concerning to see that 52% of Americans surveyed

2:00.0

believe that our democracy is weaker than in the past.

2:03.9

And when you break that down even further, older Americans, 72% of Americans over the age of 65 say it's weaker.

2:11.6

So in other words, those who have seen the most of our past are most concerned about our present and our future.

2:17.2

Apart from those concerns,

2:18.5

though, we can be optimistic because Americans have a good idea of what they believe needs to

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