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Learning How to See with Brian McLaren

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Learning How to See with Brian McLaren

Center for Action and Contemplation

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.8748 Ratings

🗓️ 1 October 2020

⏱️ 3 minutes

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Summary

How do we transform and transcend our biases? From judgments made unconsciously to complacency in systemic evil, we must learn how to see if we are to learn how to transform. Center for Action and Contemplation faculty members Brian McLaren and Richard Rohr join Rev. Dr. Jacqui Lewis Ph.D. of New York’s Middle Church for this special six-episode podcast series Learning How to See. Listen as these three powerful public theologians discuss how seeing is social, political, and contemplative. Learning How to See starts October 5th, 2020.

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0:00.0

As I've been watching what is unfolding in our world, I can't stop thinking.

0:07.2

How can we learn to see?

0:10.4

We're looking for the story that doesn't necessarily change our minds.

0:14.6

We're actually looking for the story that confirms what's in our minds.

0:17.8

Yes, yes.

0:19.0

I think people don't, we don't want to know about ourselves

0:22.8

that sometimes we're still living from our 13-year-old self or our 20-year-old self, right? Like,

0:28.5

we don't let our real self grow up. And when I'm afraid, in my younger Jackie, my less mature

0:35.5

Jackie is the one that responds to what's happening in the world, right?

0:38.6

I'm anxious, I'm nervous, and I'm angry.

0:41.1

So I think that just is fascinating to think about how we work around that,

0:46.9

how we grow ourselves up as part of our way to be unbiased human beings.

0:54.1

How can we learn to see what's really there? part of our way to be unbiased human beings.

0:54.5

How can we learn to see what's really there, to see what our neighbor sees, but that we've

1:00.8

always missed, to help others see what we see, to open our eyes together and see what we've never seen or even been able to see.

1:14.8

You know, it's striking me is how dangerous the notion of church most of us were raised with

1:21.5

as being a homogeneous group of like-minded people. I mean, we were just set up for resistance to other

1:33.0

voices. The church without diversity can hardly be church when we confuse uniformity with

1:41.3

unity in the spirit. My, my mind, this is revolutionary. And yet most

1:47.6

of us prefer to be around people who think like we do, not realizing what a trap that

1:53.9

gets us into. I selfishly wish I'd known this 30 years ago when I was on the road.

2:02.6

And in so many ways it lays the groundwork for why I think we need the contemplative mind.

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