Coming Back from Failure / Joe De Sena & Gordon Caplan Joe De Sena & Gordon Caplan Part 2
The Hard Way w/ Joe De Sena
Spartan Races
4.7 • 870 Ratings
🗓️ 21 September 2021
⏱️ 44 minutes
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Summary
When it feels like all hope is lost, how do you come back? Heard of the "Varsity Blues" college admission scandal? Have you asked yourself what happened next? How a family recovers? What’s next after jail after losing his career? That’s what Joe De Sena and Gordon Caplan talk about in this second half of their interview.
Gordon Caplan was one of those parents, and he tells Joe De Sena (CEO & Founder of Spartan) exactly what he was thinking, and what he learned from the experience and the deep thinking he did in jail. Every parent of a high school-age kid, and grandparents ... and anyone who works with them in school needs to listen closely to the lessons here. In part one of this interview, you'll hear what exactly happened, how it happened, why it happened, and what is wrong with the way 90% of the parents out there are thinking about their kids. Next week we publish part two, that's where you'll hear you can come back from even the most devastating blow.
Read more about Gordon Caplan’s story https://www.spartan.com/blogs/unbreakable-kids/gordon-caplan
Joe De Sena’s Parenting book “10 Rules for Mental Toughness for Families”
https://www.spartan.com/10Rules
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| 0:00.0 | Hey guys we're diving into Gordon Kaplan part two. This is arguably one of the best interviews we've ever done most important interviews. How can I possibly say that after five years and 700 interviews? Here's the deal. |
| 0:10.8 | This guy was top of his game. higher than many of us would ever achieve. Chairman of his |
| 0:17.0 | law firm, number one dealmaker in the United States, family perfect, best college, incredible at sports. This guy checked every box. But he stepped |
| 0:28.7 | over the line. During that varsity blues scandal we've all heard about, he paid someone to change test results. |
| 0:37.0 | He ends up losing his law firm, goes to jail. |
| 0:41.0 | Oh my God, you got to listen to part one. |
| 0:44.0 | Like, I can't even imagine. |
| 0:45.0 | Here's somebody who knew right from wrong and he made a mistake because you would do anything for your child. |
| 0:52.0 | So please listen to that. But in part two what we're going to dive into is what happens when you lose everything? What happens when you disappoint your entire family, your children friend your friend stop talking to you they want to distance themselves from you |
| 1:06.6 | you lose your law firm you lose your money you go to jail how do you bounce back from that |
| 1:11.9 | most people don't. |
| 1:14.0 | Most people can't. |
| 1:15.4 | But there's some clues here if we listen very intensely |
| 1:19.7 | that we can apply to our own lives |
| 1:21.5 | because we're all gonna face speed bumps, roadblocks. |
| 1:25.0 | If you do Spartan races, you're going to face some real obstacles and maybe with those clues, it'll help us get through those valleys of death in our life. |
| 1:37.4 | Help us bounce back. |
| 1:38.8 | Because this guy's coming back and I don't know how the hell he's doing it, but he's doing it. |
| 1:44.0 | And so listen in, enjoy this, and let's learn. |
| 1:48.0 | Welcome to the Spartan Up Podcast with Joe Descenta, founder and CEO of Spartan Race. |
| 1:55.0 | We are talking about overcoming obstacles. |
| 1:58.0 | The same way we teach people to get over obstacles on the course, we will teach you here on the Spartan Up podcast to get over obstacles in your mind. |
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