Strictly changed me completely because I looked at myself and thought you can do you can be a different person

Kalman you don't need to conform you can change yourself and I think at 42 that was a brilliant thing for me to change my life and see

You can be a bit feminine if you want to Susan. I was afraid people would laugh at me as a

wee dike in feminine clothes. I thought they'd laugh at me because I didn't look right.

And actually doing it, I mean some people laughed at me but they laughed at me anyway but I looked at

myself and thought that's not awful. It gets better because it has to get better.

We're all made of human. You are listening to the Made of Human

Podcast with Sophie Hagen. It's me. I'm your host and in the background you can

hear the sounds from a busy busy London street because there is no way that I'm

closing my windows because then I will suffocate and die

in this just mad heat wave that we have it's not okay and I'm I woke up in the middle of the night because so I I go to sleep with like a frozen water bottle that I have just like just

just anywhere I can have it. And I woke up because I had in my sleep opened it

and poured ice cold water over myself and you know what I wasn't I wasn't

sad about it it felt quite good but my entire bed is wet now because I've just

emptied half a liter of ice water over myself in my sleep.

So I'm not closing my window.

Just pretend the two of us are sitting in a pack somewhere and we're having this discussion which is very realistic

you know that is how I usually engage with people it's me talking you're listening

I prefer it that way. So episode 100.

Fuck.

Like at the time of recording this because obviously this episode is delayed because

what else would it be? it's you know what how what better

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