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Columbia agrees to Trump's demands: What's next for universities?

Here & Now Anytime

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4.6911 Ratings

🗓️ 24 March 2025

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Columbia University has agreed to overhaul its student protest policies to win back $400 million in federal research funding that the Trump administration pulled from the university. Columbia Professor Reinhold Martin joins us to discuss the implications of the university's decision. Then, we catch up with Mohammed Hatem, a young man in Gaza. He tells us what the situation is like on the ground, now that the war has resumed. And, the new book "Everything is Tuberculosis" traces the history of the disease, which for millennia was the world's deadliest infection. Author John Green argues that the global community could work to eliminate tuberculosis, but lacks the will.

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WBUR Podcasts, Boston.

0:22.6

We need to understand this as a concerted assault.

0:26.1

It was scripted in Project 2025 and elsewhere, and now it's being executed on the institution

0:32.4

of higher education in the United States.

0:34.7

One Columbia professor says his university's concessions to the Trump administration

0:39.4

are a troubling sign of things to come.

0:52.0

It's Monday, March 24th, and this is here and now anytime from NPR and WBUR.

0:57.5

I'm Chris Bentley.

1:01.0

Today on the show, we check in on the gym rat in Gaza, a young man who's been documenting his fitness journey well under Israeli bombardment.

1:10.2

The situation is extremely unstable right now.

1:13.6

In terms of air strikes, in terms of evacuation orders,

1:16.6

everything is just back as it was before the ceasefire.

1:19.6

Also, the author of The Fault in Our Stars, John Green,

1:23.6

has a new book about the fault in our treatment of a disease that kills more than a million, mostly impoverished people every year.

1:31.9

Even though we've already found a cure.

1:33.7

Tuberculosis follows the paths of injustice that we blazed for it.

1:37.0

It's not in the business of blazing those paths. We are.

1:39.9

But first, the Trump administration's campaign to exert more control over the nation's universities is bearing fruit.

1:48.7

Columbia University gave in to President Trump's far-reaching demands as part of negotiations over $400 million in federal funding that the president rescinded earlier this month.

2:00.1

Those include hiring more campus police officers with the power to arrest students,

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