The average person, it looks like, oh, okay, like, yeah, we're going to ban guns that are typically

used in mass shootings. Like, that should be done because we don't, you know, nobody likes to hear that there's mass shooting.

Yeah, right up until you realize that the guns most used in mass shootings are actually handguns.

Are handguns.

Exactly.

So I try my best to kind of keep abreast of what's going on in a two-way space for every state,

but I'm only one guy, there's 50 states.

It's kind of hard for me to do that.

So Ava, I wanted to bring my good friend

Ava on to my podcast to talk about what's going on

to Colorado right now, because there are a lot of things

going on to Colorado, and none of them

are really good from a two-way gun control law

standpoint and I thought it was important for people to be aware of this because I

feel like what's going on in Colorado right now is kind of like Colorado's the

canary in the coal mine and so essentially what's

happening here is inevitably what could start happening across the nation and

so you are in Colorado you're in Colorado Springs,

and you're very closely tied to what's going on there politically.

And so just kind of first, tell us who you are,

and then from there, we'll dive into what's going on in Colorado and how people can help fight against this.

Sure so first off thanks for having me on I appreciate it.

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