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The Times Tech Podcast

Color of Change’s Arisha Hatch: “Silicon Valley is living a lie”

The Times Tech Podcast

Will Morley

Business, Unknown, Technology

4.9654 Ratings

🗓️ 28 August 2020

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

The Sunday Times’ tech correspondent Danny Fortson brings on Arisha Hatch, head of campaigns at Color of Change, to talk about organising the Facebook ad boycott (5:00), why she chose to focus on the tech industry (8:55), trying to force change (11:40), whether it feels futile (15:00), what comes next in the civil rights campaign v Big Tech (17:20), the political exception on Facebook (21:00), the coming regulatory crackdown (22:30), tech’s tipping point (24:40), Silicon Valley’s grand delusion (27:15), pressuring Airbnb, Twitter and Google (32:00), ensuring a new civil rights executive is brought in at Facebook (33:40), and the dissonance between Silicon Valley’s marketing and the reality (35:00).

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0:00.0

Yo, technology.

0:02.9

What is it all about?

0:04.5

The thing that frustrates me about Silicon Valley and tech is that there's this mentality that we are doing this for good.

0:11.1

Yes.

0:11.4

It's tech for good.

0:12.4

We are improving everyone's lives.

0:14.3

And that is just false when it comes to a certain set of people.

0:17.8

That they are living a lie.

0:26.2

Okay. certain set of people. They are living a lie. Hello and welcome to Danny in the Valley, your weekly dispatch from behind the scenes

0:30.6

and inside the minds of the top people in tech. I hope you all are doing well, as is happening

0:36.7

depressingly often these days.

0:40.7

We are bringing you a pod this week in the wake of the shooting of another unarmed black man.

0:46.5

There have been protests.

0:48.4

There have been counter protests.

0:50.1

It's all happening in Kenosha, Wisconsin, where the shooting took place.

0:54.5

And as of this recording, the NBA has just canceled games for at least two days.

0:59.1

This is Wednesday evening.

1:01.1

There is discussion about actually canceling the entire season in protest.

1:06.3

Major League Baseball is canceled games.

1:08.5

WNBA has canceled games in solidarity. You have the Republican

1:12.9

National Convention going on. Things are just very fraught. And then just this evening, Wednesday,

1:21.0

an armed vigilante walked into a crowd of protesters and opened fire, killing two people and injuring

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