Brian, let's talk about the flip side of the coin here on the Irish Breakdown podcast brought to you by our friends over at Fandul.

And we just got done talking about the programs that are ascending.

It's kind of have the opposite discussion and talk about some of the programs that are trending in kind of the opposite direction.

The focus is on no longer being national powers or conference powers.

It's an interesting conversation to have.

That's for sure.

It is. And, you know, you start the ACC, Trev. We'll go ACC, we'll go Big 12, Big 10, and then

SEC, same, same order. And when you look at the ACC, it's Clemson. And look, do I think Clemson

is on the verge of being seven and six again every year? No, I don't. I think last year was a bit of a flukey year think Clemson is on the verge of being seven and six again every year?

No, I don't.

I think last year was a bit of a fluky year for Clemson.

They had some weird losses.

I think the culture, there were some cultural problems in Clemson.

I think there were some guys with some attitudes.

I mean, I don't think last year was the beginning of a seven and six run for

Dabo. I think they'll be better than that this year. But I think their better will look a lot

like it was in 21 and 22 and 23 and 24 where they'll finish in the top 25. You know,

there's going to be years they play for the ACC championship. Some years they

don't. But they're just, they're not what they were. They're not a team. Like,

their ceiling right now, unless Gabo can fix some things, is what they were in 24, which is

you're 10 and 4.

You literally lost to every good team you played.

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