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Conversations With Coleman

Coleman Hughes Special: Candace Owens, Brigitte Macron & Our Age of Conspiracy

Conversations With Coleman

The Free Press

Philosophy, Society & Culture

4.82K Ratings

🗓️ 13 August 2025

⏱️ 8 minutes

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Summary

I watched the eight-hour series on the French First Lady by podcaster Candace Owens, so you don't have to. It’s a fascinating window into a mind gripped by extreme apophenia: the tendency to see patterns where none exist. So just how and why did Candace Owens spread this lie? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Welcome to another episode of Conversations with Coleman.

0:03.8

Today I'm going to talk about conspiracy theories.

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9-11 was an inside job.

0:47.1

The attempted assassination of Donald Trump was staged.

0:50.4

Israelis secretly control the U.S. government, and on and on they go. I thought our culture

0:56.5

had reached peak conspiracy. But thanks to Candice Owens, we've now reached New Heights. For the past

1:03.6

year or so, she's been peddling the bizarre theory that Brigitte Macron, the 72-year-old

1:09.4

wife of French president, Emmanuel Macron, was born a male.

1:14.4

This proposition was originally the brainchild of Natasha Ray, a French citizen who first put forth

1:20.8

the idea on the YouTube channel of a woman named Amandine Roy, who was a self-described medium.

1:27.1

Always a good sign. From there, it passed to the

1:30.3

independent French journalist, Xavier Poussard, who wrote a self-published book-length investigation

1:35.4

called Becoming Brigitte, and finally onto Candace Owens, who's provided this brainworm with its

1:41.2

biggest platform yet. Candice said in March of last year that she

1:46.0

would stake her entire professional reputation on the idea that Macron is in fact a man.

1:52.5

And her eight-part video series, also titled Becoming Brigitte, has amassed millions of views

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