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The Dishcast with Andrew Sullivan

Coleman Hughes On The Big Blow To Identity Politics This Election

The Dishcast with Andrew Sullivan

Andrew Sullivan

Politics, News, Religion & Spirituality

4.6836 Ratings

🗓️ 6 November 2020

⏱️ 102 minutes

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Summary

Coleman Hughes is a brilliant young writer at Quillette on issues related to race, a contributing editor at City Journal, and the host of the podcast Conversations with Coleman. He famously faced off against Ta-Nehisi Coates at a congressional hearing on reparations.

In this episode, I begin by wondering what I got wrong about Trump and how the electorate actually views him. We discuss what kind of authoritarian he actually turned out to be, how woke overreach cost the Democrats big this year, and how vulnerable a president Biden could be to the pressures of the identitarian left. After I go off on a rant about “LGBTQ+”, and Coleman, who is half Puerto Rican, tackles the “Latinx” idiocy, we do a deep dive into the philosophical implications of wokeness.

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0:00.0

The Hi there, this is our second podcast of our new season of the dishcast.

0:36.2

I'm here to discuss what we've all just witnessed in this election with probably the most

0:42.4

interesting, exciting young writer I've come across in a very long time, Coleman Hughes,

0:47.3

who most of you probably have heard of or read.

0:51.2

He writes for Quillette.

0:54.0

He's at the Manhattan Institute. He's been writing brilliantly,

0:57.2

in my opinion, about race and racism and the workness and liberalism and all of the

1:04.2

incredibly interesting debates we've been having the last few years. And I'm delighted to meet you properly for the first time and to chat properly.

1:15.6

We've never really connected.

1:16.5

Not really properly.

1:18.9

This is still virtual.

1:20.6

It's still virtual, unfortunately.

1:22.8

I know.

1:23.9

I know.

1:26.2

I'm worried that I'm becoming entirely virtual person. I'm just barely interacting with other humans anymore.

1:32.4

And it's really disorienting, isn't it? I mean...

1:37.1

It is. There's virtual options on Tinder and FaceTiming on Tinder.

1:44.4

There's virtual comedy shows I've heard about, which sound absolutely horrible.

1:48.8

They do, I have to say, too.

1:51.2

In Provincetown this summer, they had, they tried to put all the shows online,

1:54.7

which was an incredibly heroic attempt, but it was incredibly dull when it turned out.

2:01.9

You just can't replicate live performance.

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