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Welcome to your wrong about the podcast where we love to investigate the mystery that is Santa.

And so, of course, this week, we are joined by Sarah Archer, our Santa correspondent.

We did a Santa episode last year, which I would love for you to listen to.

We had a great time.

And this time, we're talking

about a particular moment in Santa history. We were talking about the Cold War Santa and how the

1950s and the post-war era in the United States transformed what we make of Christmas and what Christmas

has made of us.

We've had many great past Sarah Archer episodes, including one on Martha Stewart and one of my favorites titled The Trad Wife Rises.

And of course, when we are talking about Santa, we're talking about so much else.

And I love getting into the back rooms where all of these

ideas connect. And somehow a lot of these ideas involve women doing more work, which I also find

interesting. Also, as you may or may not know, I have an exciting new show out with CBC

podcasts. It's called The Devil You Know. It's about the satanic panic. If you've

been listening to me talk about the satanic panic for the past seven years, then this is a place

where we get to interview people, learn about the nooks and crannies of North America, how this

flourished and why, and get into

some of the questions that we just have not been able to explore in this show. But I would love

for you to join us over there. And we will be putting out new episodes for the next couple weeks,

as well as bonus episodes. And you can find the devil you know wherever you get your podcasts, of course.

We also have a very fun bonus episode coming for you soon.

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