One of the best things that Satoshi ever did was never be outed as whoever they or he or she was

because now we don't attach sort of our opinion of whether Bitcoin's good or bad to a person.

And the government can't go and arrest and put this person in jail for violation of whatever laws they said that Satoshi may or may not have violated.

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You're watching CoinDesk Spotlight.

I'm your host, Jen Sanasi, joined by my co-host, the founding editor of the protocol newsletter, Brad Kown.

And it is our pleasure to bring you into this candid discussion with Bitmex co-founder.

And Mailstrom, Chief Investment Officer Arthur, welcome to Coin Desk Spotlight.

Thanks for having me.

Here on Spotlight, we really want to get to know the folks behind the headlines.

And so I'm going to start here.

Humor me.

We know that you grew up in the United

States. You went to school in Buffalo, born in Detroit. If you think back to that boy who is growing

up here in the U.S., what was it about him that made crypto and the ethos of crypto so appealing to

you when you learned about it?

So I got into gold early in my financial services career back in, I guess, what, 2011 or whenever like the spike happened. And I was living in Hong Kong and, you know, I was sort of like anti

all this money printing kind of thing

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