Coffee House Shots: Keir Starmer's total lack of curiosity
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🗓️ 14 March 2026
⏱️ 15 minutes
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Today we are delighted to be joined by the Sunday Times’ Gabriel Pogrund, whose book – Get In, which details Starmer’s rise to power – is out now in paperback with new revelations on the Peter Mandelson vetting process. It turns out that Keir Starmer did not even speak with his prospective US ambassador before offering him the biggest diplomatic position in Starmer’s government. The whole scandal has exposed the prime minister’s startling lack of curiosity and a detachment from important process that seems especially baffling given his background as a lawyer. What is the reason behind this lack of curiosity? And how does Starmer compare to other prime ministers in recent memory?
Oscar Edmondson speaks to Tim Shipman and Gabriel Pogrund.
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| 0:00.0 | On Tuesday the 24th of March, our speakers will debate the motion, |
| 0:04.0 | this House believes we should abolish the licence fee. |
| 0:07.2 | Spectator Chairman Charles Moore and the telegraphs Alison Pearson |
| 0:10.2 | will propose the motion with Spectator editor Michael Gove |
| 0:13.4 | and former BBC America editor John Sopel opposing. |
| 0:16.8 | I'm Isabel Hardman and I'll be in the chair to maintain decorum and take your pressing questions. |
| 0:22.2 | Join us on Tuesday the 24th of March at 7pm and book your tickets at spectator.com forward slash debate. |
| 0:35.7 | Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots, the Spectator's Daily Politics Podcast. |
| 0:39.6 | I'm Oskredenson. I'm joined today by Tim Shipman and Gabriel Pogrant. |
| 0:42.9 | Now, Gabriel, we're especially excited to have you on because you are in possession of a scoop, |
| 0:46.9 | which appears in the paperback version of your very good book, Get In, which you co-authored |
| 0:50.8 | with Patrick McGuire. Could you tell us about how thin this vetting |
| 0:55.1 | process appears to be on Peter Mandelson as US ambassador? Well, what are great questions that animated |
| 1:01.0 | us approaching the paper that was, will the same personality traits and possibly defects that |
| 1:08.0 | characterised Starmes' time in opposition translating to the government. |
| 1:11.6 | And if so, what will that look like? |
| 1:13.6 | You know, we characterize Stama as somebody whose politics are often conspicuous by their |
| 1:19.1 | absence at his first leadership campaign meeting in 2019. |
| 1:22.8 | He didn't want to chair the discussion. |
| 1:24.6 | And when asked what he did wish to discuss, raised important point with adhering to campaign finance and trade union legislation. |
| 1:32.0 | So this is one of those moments, the appointment in Mandelson, where you see that lack of politics |
| 1:37.2 | made flesh in government and in, forgive the cliché, the corridors of power, |
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